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Thursday, December 11, 2014

Defending The CIA



WHOLE WORLD WAITS III

Kislev 19, 0836PST

Defending Law Enforcement, The Intelligence Community:

Part II:  Senate Review of CIA Interrogation Techniques

Eighty million dollars is a whole lot of money.  It could renovate my Cathedral and Synogogue, build a KESHET ("kiss-it') House under the cathedral, a 'bridge' of peace between peoples; and there would be enough remaining to keep The Cafe open to seniors.  Know anything about The Cafe?  It's run by Meals-on-Wheels.  It's closing because there is no funding, donations down.

Meanwhile, 'donations' to Senators, at the top of the food-chain of our Predatory Credentialing System, are up; highest-levels in history.  It is Senators that solicited for a 'new, improved, cleaner, better, brighter, whiter, more-efficient, less-complicated, simpler, easier, less-expensive' version of intelligence-gathering.  All data is reviewed by Senators.  Behind closed-doors.  Just like the NSA, the 'needs' and 'wants' and 'desires' and 'purpose' of such agencies is pre-determined, by Senators.  All data compiled is reviewed by Senators.  All funding is provided by Senators.  All 'reforms' are designed by Senators, to 'distance' themselves, and compile a Black List of scapegoats to take-the-blame.

 -- so 'donations' are up.
 -- so they 'look-like' 'heroes'.

At the EXACT ROOT of it, is the struggles we face, not just as a country, but as a world, blurring the lines between Secularism, Sectarianism and Subsidiation, vast concepts, each.  Any 'intelligent-discussion' about the ROOT is derailed into squabbling over details within each concept.  Our Predatory Credentialing System ensures it, and, actually profits from atop the confusion, rubble, misery and grief.  Let me explain:

We are all born-in to the world, our 'environments,' and what we are told to think about the world is dependent upon not only socio-economics, but religious influences, an inherent xenophobia regardless of actual location, language, time, place, race, religion, 'social-standing' or education of parent(s) and so-called 'equal-opportunities' which may (or may not) be available to child.  As adults, much is taken for-granted, and reasonable-sounding platitudes memorized to gloss-over worldly struggles.  The Troubles in the United Kingdom, a period of religious militancy attempting to overthrow government(s), is a reflection of this.  But it's far more sophisticated, here, in the United States, and has 'shock-waves' throughout the world, all other governments affected.

Protestant Extremism in the United States is primarily covert, not overt; subtle, not blatant; maliscious, not benevolent; accepted, not rejected; it's militancy assymmetrical, not symmetrical (yet conforms to a symmetry of like-agendas).

We would still have outright slavery if not for Judaism(s), a 'peace-bridge' between the Jewish Faith and Catholicism, which always opposed slavery, embracing the values of equality and 'justice for all,' (not just a few), and, freewill, the sovereign right of the individual to choose their own destiny.

End-times or Last-day religious movements are the opposite; their goals, their faith itself, is about End of The World events, where they themselves must defend their 'church' or religious movement against government(s), telling themselves that those opposed to them are not possessed by the 'spirit of the lord,' but possessed of something ELSE, therefore must be killed, but it is not 'real murder' because the 'enemy' are not 'of god,' not 'real people.'  Their 'elders' teach the 'flocks' to 'walk softly,' to comply with current laws, rules and regulations, but be-in-waiting, for that 'phone call,' when they are to seize control.

The End-times religious movements are a powerhouse of lobbyists, devising and compiling their own tax-shelters, industries, hospitals, out-patient services, insurance funds and trust funds, maneuvering their own people into key positions within government, Law Enforcement, City Councils, County Commissioners, State and Federal Legislators, boards of directors and regents within the Predatory Credentialing System itself.  They have their own doctors and lawyers, favorable judges and someone, somewhere to call if they need 'help' in the promotion of their own agenda(s), in nearly every regulatory agency.

The 'weak spot' of every democracy is through it's Parliamentary (Legislative) Branch.  When a religious movement gets a following, and attracts 'investors,' the first thing they do is put one of their own in a Legislative position, and the entire 'flock' promotes it.  In this country, it seems 'normal,' and is considered to be 'normal,' but when the lines between separation of church and state are blurred, the country and it's peoples suffer.  When these movements pass laws to prohibit a product, or regulate a product or industry, for example, their own people are 'job-secured' from atop the regulatory and enforcement and 'corrections-systems' and take 'donations' from non-members to promote an agenda that is far beyond anything a 'donor' ever thought about.  Consequences include oppression of an entire demographic(s), education (reforms) that 'appear nice' on the surface, but cause more problems for a future generation, skyrocketing costs of enforcement and 'corrections' (prisons and security and all the paperwork-pushers), black-marketing of goods and services, censorships, double-standards, injustice, trillions and trillions of dollars in debts, and all of that benefits the 'end times' philosophical agenda promotors and their ultimate agenda of seizing control of government(s).

Further, those who were opposed to slavery from it's inception, Jews and Catholics and various governments, including the United Kingdom, Russia, Asiatic countries too, have joined-forces, unawares, with PORTIONS of the Protestant Extremist forces, via Legislative Branches, becoming manipulated into supporting a portion, only to become boxed-in, violating their own tenants in subtle ways, blurring the lines between Secularism, Sectarianism and Subsidiation ( a concept completely misunderstood and removed from Protestant credentialing).  That is most prevalent here in the United States.

CONSERVATISM, a COMMON THEME:

The most blatant example of this is the concept of 'conservatism.'  Laws that inhibit Freewill are violations of conservatism.

 -- CONvictions aMASS CONvicts --

It is not a 'conservative value' to prohibit someone's Freewill to purchase a product, to choose for themselves if it's either a 'good-thing' or a 'bad-thing' for their own individual lifestyle/person.  It is a violation of conservative-values to prohibit a person's Freewill to prove modesty by averting one's eyes; it is a violation of conservative-values to prohibit a person's Freewill to prove decency by looking-away.  See, it is the individual's Human Right to not concoct 'offenses' from their gift of sight, as they modestly avoid staring, shaming, ridiculing, scorning, blaming the size, shape, color or deeds of another.  Look, there is no end-to-it; once the lines of conservatism are twisted into violating Freewill to dictate 'modesty' and 'decency,' then where is one's Freewill to choose not to bully, strong-arm, fight, extort, rape, rob or murder?  Freewill is the key.

The Protestant Extremist movement(s) blur the lines of conservatism, starting with slavery and culminating in dictating lifestyles, pursuits of life, liberty and happiness, claiming that 'modesty' is dictatorial MANdates against an individual's Freewill, denying a person the Freewill to prove modesty by averting their eyes, denying a person's Freewill to look-away; or, not buy a product, or change the channel, or turn-off the radio, etc., etc., etc.,

The END RESULT is a Legislative Branch run-amok, a Twilight Zone of legal precedents that has outlawed a significant portion of economy, concocted vast debts enforcing predatory fees, fines and 'corrective-actions,' securing 'job-security' for future-generations of college-grads 'donating' back to a particular political entity of the Legislative Branch to profit from atop the confusion, rubble, misery and grief, at taxpayer expense; by blurring the lines between Secularization, Sectarianism, Subsidiation, Freewill/Freedom, convictions and equality, an endless 'crusade-mentality' of 'positive-thinkers', pessimistically tunnel-vision focusing on perceiving 'negatives' to hammer against their merciless 'positive-cross-signs,' using the points of hypocritical forked-tongues as nails, in the pathetic attempt at making themselves-out to 'look' or 'feel' superior/supreme, demanding 'more equality' for themselves, but there is no such thing as 'more equality.'

Meanwhile, the other religious movements get boxed-in, supporting ELEMENTS of EXTREMISM unawares, in violation of their own theological teachings and mission statements, especially Subsidiation, at the long-term detriment of their own Churches and Synogogues, social-influences and their host-countries of operation.

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE CIA?

For the astute, that should be obvious at this point, but I'll explain, briefly:

Firstly, the Central Intelligence Agency does not conduct Law Enforcement Operations within the United States; however, during gathering of intelligence, if it becomes aware of gross violations which could threaten the country or it's peoples, select information may be turned-over to Law Enforcement (who will conduct their own investigations, confirm and gather their own evidence, then, make arrest(s) and turn over said 'evidence' to a Prosecutor to bring charges against an individual(s)).  CIA personnel may 'monitor' the conduct of both civilians and officers, before, during and after said investigations, including undercover officers and 3rd-party contractor(s)/informants.  In many cases, the public would never have known about Civil Rights and/or Human Rights abuses had it not been for the CIA.  I want to make that profoundly clear.

Upon discharge from the military, after volunteering to serve their country, risking all in the process, Black men were given 'routine innoculations which were, in fact, infectious diseases.  The program started during what is commonly referred to as the "Great White Flight" (from inner-cities to suburbia).  This was not an 'isolated incident.'  It was not 'one bad-doctor.'  And it was not 'the military.'  But it was and still is 'the military' that takes the blame, unfairly.  It was not a 'bad pharmaceutical cabal,' or an 'evil CEO' either.  It was, and still is, 'job-security' for future-generations of college-grads, mostly white, professionally-unionizing, 'donating-back' to a particular political-entity of the Legislative Branch for perks, benefits, raises, profiting from atop the rubble, confusion, misery and grief.  The diseases, all STDs, bought billions of dollars worth of such 'job-security,' which is, bottom-line, CREDENTIAL SALES from a Predatory Credentialing System.

We would not know anything about it had it not been for the CIA to strive in stopping it.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED (we think)

 -- unfortunately, the 'side-effects' often overshadow the dedication of those in the CIA, as conspiracy-theories blame 'the military' or 'the government,' while the Predatory Credentialing System itself continues to profit, having a 'vested-interest' in such conspiracy-theory and superstition-promoting squabbles, all diversions from reality, which returns this essay back-to  "blurred-lines" between Secularism, Sectarianism and Subsidiation.

Neither Law Enforcment nor the Military choose their arsenals.  They do not 'arm themselves.'  They are given manuals to 'worship.'  They are trained by 'credentials' who were trained by a Predatory Credentialing System with an agenda all it's own.  Keep that in mind, always.

The nurse or Physician's Assistant or the Physician himself that administered the STD containing infectious disease to discharged men from the Military, was just doing his job.  He was 'born-in to it,' this system, just like everybody else.

 -- it was five PhDs, with peer-reviewed and signed-off reports, that spoon-fed Dan White's defense, that he was "under the influence" of 'junk-food' when he murdered the Mayor of San Francisco and City Supervisor Harvey Milk.  Such a 'simple explanation' was all 'the flocks' needed to overlook murder, to excuse assassination, chanting "see!  we told you so!  Those Gays are angry, irresponsible, hateful, violent!" , to provoke and antagonize an oppressed demographic, and profit from atop the rubble, confusion, misery and grief, 'job-security' for future-generations of college-grads, mostly 'straight,' professionally unionizing, in a hierarchical unionization-system, to a particular political-entity of the Legislative Branch, at tax-payer expense, promoting a Protestant Extremist agenda.  The individuals are born-in to it, unawares, just "going-along."  It all 'sounds-reasonable' from the 'environment' of which they are 'born-in-to.'

 -- ( ... it was Jews that stood-up for Gays before being targeted themselves by Nazis, all a devious-plot to antagonize Judaism(s) in the first place.  NEVER FORGET).
 -- ( ... it was Catholicism that monitored and observed 'yet another' persecution of monitories by a Protestant Extremist Movement.  NEVER FORGET).
 -- had they not, the world would only know the 'history' of 'victors' (protestant).  NEVER FORGET.

-- there used to be one guy in the office for every thousand men doing real work; now, we have three to seven (mostly women) in the office, for every man doing real work, actually building anything, repairing infrastructure or constructing new infrastructure.  Yes, there are a few women involved in actual production of products, but there is so much 'fluff' in products now, luxuries, that Practical Use and Modesty has been 'blurred' to the Extreme, out-pricing products, goods and services.  We need cars that can be hosed-out, especially utility vehicles and family cars; we do not need 'the office' under the windshield, 'entertainment centers' on the walls and dashboards; nor 'couch-potato' luxury upholstered seating to 'enjoy the movie/entertainment' of driving on-the-road; and we certainly do not need policies and laws blurring Practicality/Modesty with the Luxury of "maximum 'phaaat-bottom' line(s).  The End Results fuel the Predatory Credentialing System cycle, profiting atop rubble, misery, grief and confusion, massive debts, endless 'enforcements' and 'corrective-actions,' scapegoat-ism(s) while that system itself runs leaderless, rudderless and out-of-control to the detriment of Freewill/Freedom, world economy and government(s).

 -- meanwhile, the 'experts' are still squabbling about the 'meaning of Secularism(s)' or 'is' ... while the entire remainder of the universe slides-on-by, unnoticed.  See?  See it yet?

 -- -- while the debts accumulate;
 -- -- while the Seniors at The Cafe share in a LAST SUPPER;
 -- -- while the innocent await execution (see the guy released after 36-yrs for a crime he could never have committed?  The 'experts' claim it's 'proof' our system is 'working'!)

-- -- meanwhile, the 'experts' thoughts are derailed by one word, an 'offense' perceived via their gift of hearing or sight;
 -- -- meanwhile, the 'blurring' of Conservatism continues, while a TICKING TIME BOMB UNDER THE WHITE HOUSE gets closer to detonating;
 -- -- meanwhile, after concocting an 'offense' from the gift of vision, or one's ears or nose, more jobs are outlawed, more products prohibited, more fees and fines levied, more jails and prisons filled, more cops and troops blamed, and with each passing day, another domestic violence incident occurs, another office or mall shooting, another minority or economically depressed person is enticed into escapisms (alcohol, drug or sex abuse), felonized so they can't vote to change anything.
 -- -- meanwhile, as the 'blurring' of Conservatism perverts the Freewill of proving Modesty by averting one's eyes, molests the Freewill of proving decency by 'looking-away', or changing the channel, or not buying a book or magazine, or not frequenting a business, or not buying a product, those who always opposed Slavery are MANipulated and MANdated into supporting ELEMENTS of their own demise.

In our country, our world 'mission statement,' all people are equal, and justice is for all people, equally, in their pursuits of life, liberty and happiness.  Not a religious-movement's exclusive interpretation of that, but each individual determines their own destiny, nothing is dictated to inhibit their Freewill, their Lifestyle.  That is the EXACT ROOT of Christianity and all major religions: ' ... if god doesn't inhibit one's freewill, who are you to do so?"  When a country, a democracy is molested into a religious movement, be it dictating and mandating upholding beliefs in faith or beliefs in theories, social 'classes' separate, pitting group against group, and then war erupts.

TheoryWorship is the 'terminal cancer' of Financial systems and Governments.  Be healed of it.

We have a situation brewing, and it's been simmering for a long time.  It's the struggle between Secularism, Sectarianism and Subsidiation, and the manipulation of those forces to manipulate government into an End-Times resultant.  Look, there are many things about the Bush presidency that I disagreed with (and still do), but he understood this, and I love him for it.  Had he not mobilized against Terror, it is not just the current generation(s) that would have suffered, all future generations would have, and that most certainly would have jeopardized our country and most others.  It's not what occurs 'today,' and it's not the 'symptoms' affecting governments and people right now, it's cumulative, and growing exponentially, generation after generation, see.

No, these are not 'his words' nor the words of 'advisors.'  These are MY WORDS, freely-expressed, my faith, freely-expressed, my free-expression IN MY OWN WORDS, not somebody else's.

President Bush had a 'vision' that our country, our world, was in trouble, asymmetrically under attack, fomenting militancy which is, in itself, a diversion from what is 'simmering beneath' the 'surface.'  I agree.  There's more to it than just another religious fanatic taking-up arms against his country.  Much more.  The militancy is merely a symptom, a ruse and a diversion from the real cause and solution.

Again, I wrote the solution first and firstly.  This is merely the examination of the complaints.  I have always said, "the answers are always found in the complaints."  There was a period of time in the '80's when the 'corporate-world' was duped by the Predatory Credentialing System to set-up "suggestion boxes," and tell employees, "don't offer a complaint unless you provide the solution."  That is wrong and I was always against it.  Why?  Because one person hired to do one thing, can't possibly know "the solution" for an entire corporation.  It's censorship, in disguise, an excuse to keep the workers silent and blame them when things go wrong.

The intelligence he was given, President Bush that is, and that was provided to Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell and others of his Team, Don Rumsfeld and so many others included, was by 'experts' who are so specialized, they'll squabble over a word while the entire remainder of the 'building' burns to the ground around them, unnoticed.  Suddenly, there's a 'crisis,' one 'crisis' after another ...

 -- -- while descendants of slaves that built this country working in tobacco fields, are killed in public for selling to the poor, a single, loose cigarette today.
 -- -- while Seniors have their LAST SUPPER at The Cafe in Spokane, Washington, USA.
 -- -- while all the 'safeguards' and 'bureaucracies' are just 'job-security' for 'donors' to a political entity of the Legislative Branch;  'wheels within wheels within wheels,' spinning, consuming the most resources, stomping their BigFoot carbon-footprints on the backsides of overly-burdened Common Man.
 -- -- spending money, the future generations' wealth, today, talking about working instead of doing anything real; ridiculing and scorning the size, shape, color, looks and smells of those working, unconditionally unforgiving, and profiting from it.  "Offering children up to Moloch" comes to mind, (from the TANAKH).

Look, at President Obama's inaugeral  ceremony, we had the 'best of the best' celebrated live, on National TV, lip-syncing and miming to computer-enhanced and studio-engineered pre-recordings.  Fake performance by 'the masters,' Yo Yo Ma from Higher Education and Beyonce' from the Pop Music Establishment.  Meanwhile, those doing real performance, High School Marching Bands, were ignored, denigrated.

See, when Blacks were slaves, they had to innovate their work, and INVENTED numerous things that are still used today, "re-branded," but since they were slaves and it was illegal for them to own anything and illegal for them to be educated, Higher Educational systems took credit, and today, holds trillions in Trust Funds unto themselves, hiring themselves, usurping controls over every aspect of pursuits of life, liberty and happiness, public and private, via a Predatory Credentialing System and the 'weak-spot' of all democracies, Law Enforcement and Legislative/Parliamentarian systems.  These were 'religious-institutions' firstly, then, after establishing public funding, 'job-securing' their own in 'public institutions,' which are, in a sense, 'franchises' of the 'same 'ole,' same 'ole,' not 'alternatives' at all.

 -- professionally-unionizing and 'donating-back' to a political entity of the Legislative Branch for more, more, more ... endlessly.

To this, the Predatory Credentialing System, 'success' in terms of either Justice or Health and Welfare of We The People, is "all beds full," and make room for as many as possible.  That's "biblical bedlam" to everyone else, to real Conservatism, the opposite of equality and justice for all.  To everyone else, the real 'conservative,' 'success' in terms of justice and healthcare is "all beds empty," everybody is well, healthy; it's simple.

See how that works?  Starting to see the difference?  By 'blurring' Conservatism(s), by 'blurring' the lines between Secularism(s), Sectarianism(s) and Subsidiation, we get MORE ENEMIES, not less, MORE DIVIDES, not fewer, LESS FREEDOM, MORE TYRANNY, MORE DEBTS.

 -- incidentally, interest payments alone are now hundreds-of-billions annually, which is the money that could have paid for your child's education K-thru-PhD, and kept the Senior Cafe open, and so much more, including Public Works to keep people productive for real, not just talking and consuming resources pushing paperFAKEwork around about working, instead of doing any.

Is your gift of smell so insignificant that just one 'unpleasant odor' is worth raising taxes to send six cops to beat/strangle a man to death on a public sidewalk?  Take a knife, smite your own nose, problem solved!

 -- that would be Conservative, where the burden of 'living in the world' is on your shoulders, to prove your own version of 'modesty' and 'not burden others with unpleasant odors', as your Freewill choice of being a 'better example' of a 'healthy lifestyle,' or not;

 -- it is a Conservative Value that you prove modesty by averting your eyes, prove decency by looking-away, instead of staring, ridiculing, scorning, JUDGING and thereby burdening tax-payers and country by demanding/forcing or even voting for laws and MANdates that censors Press, censors the world from individuals' free-expressions, 'wardrobe-malfunctions' inclusive.  Had the fines been levied against the complainers, instead of the Press/broadcasters and Performers, real conservative-values would be proved.  If I were to take the current Twilight Zone of 'conservatism' to the extreme, I would censor from the Press, including Advertising, all use of kids to sell products, it's "pimping kids for profit," by YOUR DEFINITIONf (in my own words).  That's the TREND that YOU set by dictating 'modesty' and 'decency,' thereby blurring conservatism, secularism, sectarianism and Subsidiation, burdening taxpayer and country with ridiculous 'enforcements,' encroachments that disenfranchise, that is.

Back to Slave Inventions a moment:  it was the Protestant Extremist Movement and their Predatory Credentialing System that promoted the concept, subtly, that Blacks were "mimmickers," "trained monkeys," and were, " ... incapable of innovation, or doing anything original."  Louis Moreau Gottschalk is a prime example (Music Education).  He was, and is still, deemed to be a "mimmicker," a "trained monkey."  Frederick Chopin loved him.  Gottschalk was black, see.  Free-associations were discouraged in Protestant society.  A marvelous performer and composer, Louis Moreau Gottschalk was hated by Higher Education credentialing-systems and is still not credited. 

Likewise, Jazz is a Black Invention.  Higher Education 'detail-oriented' that free-expression into "intellectually fascinating" Music Theory Worship, and molested it into ugly and uglier, offering PhD-credentialing in Jazz Orchestration and Composition and Performance, 'white-washing' the realities of the music genre' itself.  Same with "modern music," extracting the beauty out of music, no beautiful melodies to hum or sing in the shower, just "fascinating noise," a mimmickery itself of past masterworks, turned into "rhythmic mimickery in organized sounds."  It's not 'real music,' it's organized-noise to intellectually fascinate-over.  It takes training to 'appreciate' it, at all.

Now, that same Predatory Credentialing System lofts a few Black Performers OnHigh, and the whole world watches as these performers mimmick live-performance, moving-around like programmed synchronized robots, free-expressions stifled, to computer-enhanced, digitally studio-engineered 'performance,' impossible human 'accomplishment,' see, therefore, inhuman.  That is why there are more and more musicians and performers today who have signed pledges to never do that in front of audiences, because it furthers the subtle denigration of People of Color and the Predatory Credentialing System that says, " ... just clap and smile politely, but see, it's just mimmickery, we told you so!" smirking all the way to the bank.

In real performance, live performance, the audience is very forgiving.  No performer is the exact same, day after day, night after night, each performance a unique setting with a unique audience and a unique 'feel.'  Sometimes the performer is ill, or injured, or tired, or troubled by personal issues, but just the fact all those unique people came to support them, is the beauty of them sharing their 'song' or 'story,' and the 'hardships' are pre-understood and pre-forgiven.  Now, the 'best of the best' is 'de-railed' by a single 'wrong note' or 'missed-step,' their own self-esteem so undermined as to inhibit and tragically derail their performance, unless faked, mimicked.  Just like the car that's been molested into an 'entertainment center, couch-potato and office on-wheels,' a singer need not be a union-programmed-robot.  It's just an excuse to force them to engage in mimickery so racists can say, "See!  Told ya' so!"

Meanwhile, the 'credentialed' make careers mimicking masterworks in 'fascinating, 'original' syncopated atonal sounds,' and molest entire music departments into that.  Music unites, only hate divides.  And there is nothing that sounds like 'fingernails on chalkboard' and thereby empty's seats faster, than atonal PhD 'fascinating' music.  Kids hate it.  Everybody hates it, except themselves, and it's taxpayer subsidized.  This started with racism, just to say, " ... they just mimmick, and can't possibly innovate, only we can."  NEVER FORGET.  It's experimental-music, best left in labs, not used against people as lab-rats.

The 'blurring' of Secularism, Sectarianism and Subsidiation is a direct threat to National Security.  It's subtle, and systemic.  The Agenda of Protestant Extremists is to promote End-Times superstition, portents and 'signs',' profiting from atop the rubble, misery and grief by a Predatory Credentialing System that is older than this country itself.  Further, 'linking-arms' with opponents in 'diversionary' and 'seemingly like' interests, has 'boxed-in' real Conservative Elements in-support of non-Subsidiation to the detriment of said opponent(s) over-time.  Those law suits are budding, and will bankrupt and destroy, one diocese after another.  I could endlessly speculate as to where it 'could lead,' but the common-denominator is: a 'special class' of 'equality' enslaving 'non-class' after a Final-Solution Depopulation event.

 -- all the End-Times religions/cults have a 'shared-value' in such an 'event.
 -- non-members, who only know the superstitions, are told the 'signs' and 'portents,' then say, " ... well, I guess it really is THE END, so I'll just 'help' it along a bit ..." and do terrible things.
 -- Judaism(s) is the faith that these events have already occurred, and it's through the gift of 'scripture-as-a-warning' NOT TO BE THAT WAY to prevent such suffrage from every occurring again, to preserve life and country unto eternity.  History does not "repeat itself," only evil people repeat evils of history. 

Freedom is exactly that, free; only hate is expensive.  All people are unique, including their unique experiences, treasures unto themselves, as are opinions, because of it.  Only YOU 'walk' in YOUR SHOES.  Only YOU feel YOUR PAIN.  All voices must be heard!

 -- (it is the free-expression of my faith, that motivates me to defend country and peoples, via MY WORDS, and why I do not take money or emoluments for it).

When Senators approve funds for a new Arsenal, be it a weapon or a Technique or Methodology, they know who and where and how;  who to fund in order to promote a certain agenda that 'conforms' to their own designs/goals.

By funding PhDs from an End Times Movement, such as LDS, whose members will have a pre-conceived notion of what is 'fair' and what is 'inhumane' based on their own unique 'walk through life,' knowing fully well the CULTURE of End Times Movements, we get very predictable results:

 -- 1) scapegoat;
 -- 2) tainted 'intel';
 -- 3) more ruthless interrogation techniques;
 -- 4) 'test' of the above mentioned 'blurred' lines.

The PhDs that devised the CIA Interrogation Techniques should be excommunicated, and the 'brethren' involved in 'advising, aiding, supporting, counseling, training, abetting or promoting' said methodologies and techniques, strongly admonished. 

The White House Team, under the Bush Administration, was misled, and the Field Operators turned into scapegoats of a Predatory Credentialing System, who would have been fired or disciplined or jailed had they not "just gone along."  It is not their fault.  Nor is it Bush's fault.  Further, it is inexcusable to paint all LDS members and/or their religion itself as being "THE PROBLEM," as they have proved throughout their tumultuous relationship with government(s) to work at problem-resolution better than most others.  These are indeed problems they are aware of, and are working hard to resolve.  All religious movements have their fanatics and extremists, and sometimes their own 'mainstream' moves in directions unintended.  But most importantly, as far as LDS are concerned, as an institution, there are 'inherent dangers' with the luxury (it is indeed a luxury) for any government to entertain as host, any End Times religious Movement.  The LDS leaders must come to terms with it, as it is their own women that are at greater-risk today, of being put in 'burkas' and 'hajibs,' blamed, scapegoated, denigrated, mostly at their places of employment and 'out shopping,' as a result.  Theologicaly, the Melchezidites are suspended for one year (I may rebless you after Passover Seder).  Laugh all you will.  This sad affair should never have happened.

Likewise, the CIA itself is not to be blamed or held accountable.  Just like Law Enforcement and the Military, they do not 'choose their arsenal,' their people must worship manuals pre-approved by PhDs, all peer-reviewed and signed-off, funded and oversighted by Senators, a 200-yr-old institution with it's figurative 'fingers' in every 'pocket.'  Reforms must be at that level, no other, or 'same ole,' same 'ole,' remains 'status quo.'

The issue is not what types of 'torture' are 'good' or 'bad.'  The issue is judicial counsel of governments, executives and peoples.  A case could be made that any form of 'persuasion,' be it gentle or forcibly, nets 'credible returns,' but it is only torture which discredits on so many levels. "Cruel and Unusual" is exactly that.  NEVER FORGET.  What 'shining example' shall we set in future?  "Maximized 'phaaat-bottom' line(s)" philosophies, the 'silver-lining,' is that it has only proved that MODESTY in everything is truly a virtue.

Shalom and Amen.

Kind regards, always,
CLAYTON LEON WINTON citizen#C03183395